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Errors in the summary of today's or tomorrow's featured article

TFA today

TFA tomorrow

Errors in In the news

Amidst a constitutional crisis, the Supreme Court of Sri Lanka suspends Sri Lankan President Maithripala Sirisena's attempt to dissolve parliament.
  •  Done. Took out redundant "Sri Lankan". Did verify article was updated with this news. --Masem (t) 15:23, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
    • If this is a sufficiently major development to justify updating the blurb, shouldn't the article lead also mention it? Modest Genius talk 16:36, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
      • I just updated the article too. --Masem (t) 16:45, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

───────────────────────── Amidst a constitutional crisis... -- "amidst" is a bit old-fashioned, and not even very easy on the ear -- how about just "amid"? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 21:36, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

  • An outbreak of Ebola ... kills more than 200 people since August 2018. — The 2018 is unnecessary. Lack of a year obviously implies this year. Modulus12 (talk) 20:47, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 Done. Was being cautious, I've seen in articlespace ppl think that construction is too ambiguous. --Masem (t) 21:00, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Disregarding the year, the whole thing looks odd. Can you really use "since" in a present tense sentence?  — Amakuru (talk) 23:56, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Though per Stan Lee, it should be "comicbook". With all due respect to this recently-dead transformative figure, I think that's a terrible idea. Wikipedia's front page should play by Wikipedia article rules. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:55, November 13, 2018 (UTC)
Our article is comic book, and so as two words we have to treat comic and book as compound modifiers. Stephen 22:05, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
There was a request at ERRORS/TFA yesterday to remove the hyphen in the compound modifier "high-school". What's the rule? - Dank (push to talk) 23:30, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
High school classmates could be read as his school classmates who were high. So grammatically, even though high school is not hyphenated on its own, as part of a compound modifier it should have been. Stephen 23:46, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
But how high do you have to get before you start thinking we could mean Stan Lee was a comic who created books? Even presuming "comic" didn't mean "cartoon", wouldn't we call him a comedic author? Clear enough that we don't need to start cobbling together new words. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:54, November 13, 2018 (UTC)
It doesn't matter whether the alternative parsing is plausible or not. The rule, on enwiki at least, is to hyphenate compound modifiers unless they are proper nouns. So comic-book is correct. And high-school was correct. See MOS:HYPHEN.  — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
MOS:HYPHEN says a hyphen "can help", not "you must do it". I don't care what the rule is, and until yesterday, I had generally been guessing correctly which way the winds were likely to blow on hyphen rules. I get that there's a judgment call required in how likely a misreading is if there's no hyphen. I may be misreading, but it sounds to me like I'm not going to know what to do unless we get more discussion of the rule. - Dank (push to talk) 00:18, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Khajidha? Modulus? Thoughts? - Dank (push to talk) 23:50, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
I've never seen either "high school" or "comic book" hyphenated when used as a modifier. While that is the general rule, some compounds are so well established that they don't need to follow it. Both "high school" and "comic book" fall into that category. --Khajidha (talk) 00:13, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

If it was newsworthy to mention Stan Lee's recent death (and I believe it was), then I think it also appropriate to list him under Recent Deaths. I also think that this would be true for anyone else's death. (talk) 00:31, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Errors in today's or tomorrow's On this day

OTD today

OTD tomorrow

Errors in the current or next Did you know...

DYK current

I raised this yesterday but was told it's "not an error." Apparently the "New York" in the photo caption is good enough. Modulus12 (talk) 20:44, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
  • DYK image caption states "Court house in Bedford, New York". Courthouse is the universal U.S. spelling (unspaced). Bri.public (talk) 21:58, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Attempted to fix and made a mess of it at first, but  Done. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:08, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK next

DYK next next

Errors in today's or tomorrow's featured picture

POTD today

POTD tomorrow

Errors in the summary of the last or next featured list

FL current

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General discussion

Requested move 24 October 2018

– Not a subtemplate of {{Main Page}} (a redirect to {{Main Page toolbox}}), but instead of the actual main page. Main-page-related cruft tends to get put in Wikipedia namespace, so the CSS page should go there too. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 01:18, 24 October 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. IffyChat -- 14:09, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

TemplateStyles CSS pages must have the sanitized-css content model to function, and only .css pages in the template namespace have that by default. I think it will keep the content model if moved outside of the template namespace, but if not, an admin can change it with Special:ChangeContentModel. (No opinion on which namespace is most appropriate, but when creating it, Template was the only option.) --Yair rand (talk) 02:55, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment - did not understand Yair rand's comment, nor do I understand what this "template" does as it has no documentation, but if indeed it's not a subtemplate of {{Main Page}}, then this clearly needs to be moved to a different name. --Gonnym (talk) 09:18, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
    Gonnym, Wikipedia:TemplateStyles may help you understand the comment. In short, the template will store the CSS rules which will be used to style the main page using the TemplateStyles extension of MediaWiki. Personally I would prefer that the Main Page be replaced with {{Main Page}} and all the markup be moved to Template:Main Page which is what Wikidata and Commons do. However, I think that I am among a minority. — fr+ 10:13, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
  • I have added this comment to the top of the CSS page to help clarify it (To any admin: feel free to improve my wording.) Remember, the Main Page is unique in that it is in the main article namespace, but is used like a portal, whose content is largely generated by templates. Unless there are modifications elsewhere (such as using Special:ChangeContentModel), my understanding is that a TemplateStyles CSS page must currently remain in the template namespace for it to function properly. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:12, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
    Counterexample: Module:Citation/CS1/styles.css. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 02:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment the mainpage is a portal, so shouldn't it be Portal:Main Page/styles.css ? -- (talk) 03:54, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
    No, because that would be inconsistent with Wikipedia:Main Page/Tomorrow, Wikipedia:Main Page/sandbox, etc. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 04:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Zero benefit. This is similar argument to mainpage being in article space and attempt to move it being consistently shot down. Wikipedia:Main Page/styles.css is also wrong, since mainpage is not in the project namespace, unless you can move it to Main Page/styles.css, then template namespace is the only and best place for it. –Ammarpad (talk) 05:43, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Support better place to put it than the template space. Keeps everything as sub pages of one page. Galobtter (pingó mió) 05:51, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Not only is there no benefit but it is supposed to be a template and not a page Abote2 (talk) 12:11, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Tentative support. As noted above, most of the non-mainspace pages related to the Main Page are in projectspace, and I don't see why this should be different; it helps to put everything together. "Tentative" because maybe moving this page across namespaces would cause technical problems (as it would if we moved the aforementioned module, for example), and of course it's more important to avoid breaking something than to have everything in the same general area. Nyttend (talk) 01:52, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Bumping thread to prevent archival. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:07, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
I added {{Do not archive until}} to the top of this section to prevent archival. Remove the code when you'd like it archived. Modulus12 (talk) 18:57, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Edit-this-section links

It's possible to generate content (including links) that's only visible to administrators; if you are one, try viewing the Main Page source code logged out and look for the big red "Administrators! Yes, you!" warning or the edit-this-editnotice link that you get when you edit the page while logged in.

With this in mind, could we add little "edit" links, only visible to admins, to the dynamic sections of the Main Page? I'm thinking TFA, ITN, DYK, OTD, and the featured picture and list. DYK and ITN are of less importance, since one can always go to Template:DYK or Template:ITN, but since the others use a daily subpage structure, the only ways to reach them are to scroll down and find them on the transcluded templates section, or memorize the naming structure (which isn't the same in all of them) and go to today's date, e.g. Template:POTD protected/2018-11-10 or Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 10, 2018. You can't just go to the abbreviations: Template:TFA is somehow stuck on a featured article from two weeks ago, Template:OTD is a redirect to Template:Update (maintenance template), Template:TFP doesn't exist, and Template:TFL redirects to a navbox for transport in London. Nyttend (talk) 12:30, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

I think {{Main Page toolbox}} has all the links you're looking for. It's at the top of Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors, which is also transcluded to this talk page. Modulus12 (talk) 13:12, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
So can we add admin-visible-only links from it to the right parts of the Main Page? Having them on a template that's on another page isn't significantly different from having them in the "pages transcluded on this page" section when I click edit. Nyttend (talk) 13:25, 10 November 2018 (UTC)